Punk gay
What does "not a punk" mean to you?
handsomeharry1
At work the other day, somebody asked a co-worker about the collective dynamics, group character, etc…
Employee A said “Oh, these guys are all cool…no punks…”
Employee B thought that “no punks” was a contemptuous phrasing of “no gay men”.
Employee A didn’t correct Employee B, but, later, Employee A told me that he had used the term “punk” to mean “something akin to a jerkoff who would stab his co-workers in the back or not have their backs when the same could be easily accomplished”.
The pos “punk” has had a few definitions over it’s history, but, I’m rather curious what the overall perception currently is.
So, when you hear the expression “no punks/not a punk” what does that express to you?
ETA: The interrogate is specific to the phrase(s) listed. I consider that phrases like “punk-ass bitch” and the enjoy are universally understood. Also, not looking for a value judgement, just for your perceptions of what the phrase means.
Periwinkle2
For me, the word “punks” has 0% to do with being gay. I ponder of a punk as a tiresome young guy who is a smartass with a bad attitude. Usually a punk runs around with other
Just as gays and lesbians from Wayne County to the Screamers and Hüsker Dü shaped the socially confrontational music of the "Blank Generation," Texas punk stalwarts like the Dicks' Gary Floyd, Randy "Biscuit" Turner of the Giant Boys and Dianna Ray of the MyDolls proved that queer Texas punks were not mere novelties.
"I used to skate with a lot of those guys around Austin," says J.D., guitarist for Houston firebrands Zipperneck. "I had no idea that Biscuit was gay. I mind he was just weird, like the rest of us."
This doesn't mean that all of punk fandom — so-called rebel masses at the fringes of rock and roll — eagerly welcomed gay rockers.
"Rock and roll is not free — it's extremely homophobic," says Floyd. "It's not free at all. So many people don't know I'm gay. If it happens to arrive out, they act all weird. They don't wish to feel emotional about music that a gay is singing, because organism queer has such a weird connotation in this society.
"I'm not a valid advocate of going out and screaming in my songs about, 'I affectionate him,'" Floyd continues. "I keep my work gender neutral, because I wish everybody to be competent to relate to my music. I get a lo
queer punk history: 1575 – present
“I went through a lot when I was a boy. They called me sissy, punk, freak…”
— Little Richard
The most reductive possible version of the story goes appreciate this: On February 12th, 1976, a quartet of straight white boys called The Sex Pistols took the stage at The Marquee Club in London and with the first wail of feedback, punk rock was born. There’s just one problem. By 1976, the word “punk” had already been in common usage for 400 years. Punk rock had even already at that point been declared defunct (for the first of at least a billion times) by a melody critic in Ontario monitoring a disappointing Alice Cooper show in 1972. For a literal century before John fucking Lydon gentrified punk rock, the synonyms had denoted a thriving mess of contradictions, derisions, and rebellions. Long before Sid Vicious ever sneered into a microphone as part of an extraordinarily elaborate viral marketing campaign for Vivian Westwood’s clothing line, punk had been loud, Black, and queer.
“Punk” as a word has a long and storied history. First showing up as a reference to a sex worker in a 1575 song called “Simon The Old Kinge” (with an appropriatel
Gimme Top 5 : Best Gay-Punk Albums ever
(yes, it is also called “queercore”, ou… “gayrage”)
5. T. Rex – The Slider (1972)
4. Pansy Division – Absurd Pop Song Romance (1998)
3. Hunx and His Punx – Gay Singles (2009)
2. The Homosexuals – The Homosexuals (1978)
1. Fresh York Dolls – Modern York Dolls (1973)
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